Yaba Yaba

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talking across the border

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This is the place for Israelis, Palestinians and Lebanese caught up in the violence to exchange experiences and opinions. English is appreciated, but posting in Hebrew and in Arabic is also fine.
We know that there must be a lot of injury on all sides of the conflict, and it’s alright to say so; but please keep the tone down. Swearwords, spamming and death threats will be edited out.

A new forum set up by an Israeli from Bat Yam and and a Palestinian from Ramallah.
The truth is, I strongly believe in dialogue (or, in this case, trialogue) but really don’t believe in Internet forums. They just don’t work. I do hope this one proves me right on the first account and wrong on the second.
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Written by yishaym

July 25, 2006 at 4:00 pm

Posted in Israel, Lebanon, peace, so-so

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  1. Productive and future-loving people will support only one view: the peaceful middle-east, land of the semite races. this entity has a unique force. but still, it has never proved to be able to handle it, and use it in a productive and efficient way.

    the only solution is a peaceful middle-east, land of the semites [jews, christinas or moslems, but i would rather have it with no religion at all].

    the problem we’re facing until now is strictly the consequence of 2 things:

    1> the holocaust, summum of the western antisemitism in the XXth century, which pushed the horrified jewish community to regroup in some place, and defend themselves as forcefully as they can
    2> the forced implementation of the new State of Israel, brutally messing with the demographics of the region, with this feeling that they didn’t know what kind of conspiracy they were facing.

    everybody know the jewish cult and thus community saw the day in the middle-east. we also all know there was never an exclusive jewish state in the middle-east before 1948. everybody know the jews have the right to live in their biblic nation [lots of jews do not feel that way], and everybody know that an historic injustice will keep producing its consequences until corrected: as long as the israelis humiliate the palestinian and arab people with their arrogant force shows, the arab individual will always have enough hate and tension to be sensible to any violent resistance group or structure against an “Evil Enemy”.

    We should appeal to the Israeli symbolic “apologies” for the brutal implementation of Eretz Israel, and thus, knowing the arab people, we should see spontaneous flooding of the arab streets with arabs who will cry tears of joy and will demonstrate their acceptance of the Israeli State. Israel can be embedded in the middle-east and cause the rising of great arab admiration and solidarity.

    but surely not with the kind of process we have seen since the 30’s.
    Respect.

    lebanonunderattack

    July 25, 2006 at 6:59 pm

  2. in the #2 consequence above, it is the “arabs” [missing word] who wondered about the conspiracy.

    [end of the erratum]

    lebanonunderattack

    July 25, 2006 at 7:00 pm

  3. Are you suggesting that is only Israelis would repent the sins of the Naqba they would be embraced by the Arab world? Oh, how I wish it was that easy.

    On the Israeli side, while many would privately acknowledge the wrongdoings of the Zionist movement, they will never do so publicly. Israelis fear that if they admit to any injustice, they will be demanded to undo it, i.e. implement the Palestinian right of return and re-instantiate property rights. Most Israelis see this as the end of the state of Israel. I’m not expressing an opinion here – just explaining the common fears.

    I hear many Lebanese and Palestinians saying; ‘relax, we know Israel is here to stay. now lets think how we can live as decent neighbors.’ I just wish these voices were heard more clearly – and trusted – in Israel.

    On the other hand, I’m afraid that many people in the Arab world will take a long time to get over the years of anti-Israeli indoctrination, especially in Iran and Syria:
    http://lebop.blogspot.com/2006/07/feeling-in-syria.html

    yishaym

    July 26, 2006 at 12:39 am


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